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Post by inscription on Apr 21, 2023 11:11:56 GMT -8
My 6117-6400 World Time was missing a single tooth but it didn't affect the operation of the ring so I left it. I guess two missing teeth is one too many!
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Post by dapellegrini on Apr 21, 2023 12:50:30 GMT -8
Actually after disassembly for cleaning, it seems ok with those partially remaining teeth... I just won't push it.
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Post by dapellegrini on Jul 17, 2023 15:37:46 GMT -8
Current state of the collection - bracelet issues to be resolved soon.
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Post by dapellegrini on Jul 22, 2023 15:45:54 GMT -8
Ok, so I swapped out some original (and non-original period correct) bracelets with some Uncle Seikos - making these nearly all wearable now... Taking it one VERTICAL Column at a time, from Left to Right: Col 1: Silver 6217-7000 from 1964 Black 6217-7000 from 1964 Dolphin from Dec 1964 Col 2: Asian Games 6217-7010 from 1966 another Asian Games 6217-7010 from 1966 The re-edition 6217-7000 from 1967 Col 3: Silver 6217-7010, standard edition w/ lume spot dial, 1967 Black 6217-7010, standard edition w/ lume spot dial, 1967 another Silver 6217-7010, standard edition w/ lume spot dial, 1967 Col 4 Silver 6117-6010, 1969 Black 6117-6010, 1968 Gold tone 6117-6409, Feb 1972, Bezel Type 6 (London over GMT) Col 5: White dial 6117-6049, 1971 Bezel Type #5 (Moscow-Riyadh) Black / Red 6117-6400, 1976, Bezel Type 6 (London over GMT) Black / Gray 6117-6400, 1970, Bezel Type 4 (Moscow-Dharan) The latest additions are : A 6217-7000 re-edition from 1967. This has the new stamped torch on the back, and what I believe is the correct config with thin red GMT hand and lume on the hands: And today this Dolphin - a short run from Dec 1964 only, and quite hard to come by in this condition - with correct thin black GMT hand and no lume on the hands And here they are side by side: Side note - I don't think the XAA-401 bracelet on the dolphin is correct, but it looks like perhaps a period correct bracelet - I wonder to what watch it belongs?
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Post by dapellegrini on Jul 22, 2023 16:15:22 GMT -8
having spent just about two years researching and collecting these, I have some better "educated" guesses at a few things that intrigued me early on - all relating to the 6217-7000
- Red GMT seems to belong to the 67 Olympic Torch re-edition, both silver and black dials - and these also seems to have gotten lumed hands - I wonder if the dial marked MADE IN JAPAN was JDM, and 7000TAD was for overseas? There are relatively few of the 7000TAD dials overall, and this seems like a plausible story, given the timing the the T dial requirements coming out of Switzerland...
- It has been observed that some black dial variants seemed to have the lower part of the 24 hour scale in a bronze/yellow color, while others seem to be more red. I now suspect that the red variant is found on the 7000TAD black dials only, and it seems possible that these all really belong on the 1967 re-edition, with red GMT hand. I don't think any 6217-7000 black dial had a thin GMT (whereas the silver dials started with tapered GMTs and then switched to thin versions in July/Aug of 64). The thin gold toned GMT belongs on the black dialed 6217-7010 from 1967 with the lume spots on the dial.
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Post by dapellegrini on Jul 22, 2023 17:21:49 GMT -8
If anyone spots a lume-less 6117-6400 in good condition - please let me know. I think I am going for academic extra credit - and targeting the black and white lumeless dial for an extra gold star
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