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Post by peenemunde on Jul 21, 2017 4:30:50 GMT -8
Well done Manuel... Hi, Max....
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Post by besurfer on Jul 21, 2017 4:34:23 GMT -8
No one wants to be right, the forum is made to expose their ideas and sometimes intelligent people change their beliefs. I just say that one day the AUSSIE name has been invented and that there is nothing official. One thing is to say, some models came out with the black inner ring, another thing is to say that there was a dedicated model to an entire CONTINENT without a color catalog test.
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Post by masaccio on Jul 21, 2017 4:42:14 GMT -8
For me is 6139 "Silver Dial", no yellow. Color photo. I agree with you
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Post by peenemunde on Jul 21, 2017 4:46:18 GMT -8
For me is 6139 "Silver Dial", no yellow. Color photo. Do you really think that there is a colour catalogue picture of every single variant of every watch that Seiko ever produced, and that without such catalogued evidence all other variants are 'doubtful' in their authenticity? I could well be wrong but I doubt that such 'proof' as you call it exists. Now I'm no Pogue fan (Fairytale of New York aside ) but if I were I'd be happy to take the word of the numerous experts on here. The black and white photo does not try and does not deny it. If you exclude with certainty that a silver / gray 6139 6000 dial (case notch) exists, we may have an extra element. If you are performing a color photo, even better. I do not want to deny anyone, I just want to have more certainties.
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Post by peenemunde on Jul 21, 2017 4:55:56 GMT -8
Seiko 6139 6000 Silver dial, inner ring black, notch case: exsist.
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Post by SeikoPsycho on Jul 21, 2017 8:43:07 GMT -8
Silver/grey dial (on the right)... Now, we have to determine whether the model 6139 6000 also exists in silver / gray dial, notch case. Been there, Done that, and that's my Photo...........
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Post by HiBeat on Jul 21, 2017 10:06:26 GMT -8
Silver/grey dial (on the right)... Now, we have to determine whether the model 6139 6000 also exists in silver / gray dial, notch case. Been there, Done that, and that's my Photo........... Ha-ha !
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Post by HiBeat on Jul 21, 2017 10:10:34 GMT -8
Got 6139's ?
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Post by HiBeat on Jul 21, 2017 19:03:06 GMT -8
Great video by Spencer, thanks Roberto ! Now, that said, at the end of the day, a "True Pogue" is exactly as Spencer details - no argument. However, like it or not, the World calls any 6139-600X a "Pogue." Any dial. It's about the case. Some call the 6139-603X "Coke Pogue" for what that's worth.
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Post by HiBeat on Jul 21, 2017 19:04:45 GMT -8
Seiko 6139 6000 Silver dial, inner ring black, notch case: exsist. Our Member BBilford has the silver dial notch PROOF version.
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Post by cd_god on Jul 21, 2017 19:20:39 GMT -8
The first Seiko parts shelf grab mix and match "limited edition"?
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Post by besurfer on Jul 22, 2017 2:44:48 GMT -8
There are those who still believe in fairy tales and who one day decides to grow. This is the official response that Seiko in Japan sent me by email about the existence of a 6139 6002 model for the Australian market called "AUSSIE":
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Post by peenemunde on Jul 22, 2017 2:59:30 GMT -8
Seiko dixit! Thanks.
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Post by rossr on Jul 22, 2017 5:21:59 GMT -8
This is one of the most obtuse and unnecessary threads I've had the misfortune to read.
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Post by GuyJ on Jul 22, 2017 5:34:10 GMT -8
Asking Seiko if they released a "Pogue" labelled as "Aussie" won't yield many results either way, I imagine.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2017 5:44:32 GMT -8
Asking Seiko if they released a "Pogue" labelled as "Aussie" won't yield many results either way, I imagine. I sent an email too, asking about the release of a Seiko 6139-600x with yellow/gold dial and black inner bezel, exclusive to AU and Asia markets, I'm waiting them to reply
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Post by leffemonster on Jul 22, 2017 6:55:55 GMT -8
This is one of the most obtuse and unnecessary threads I've had the misfortune to read. I'm with you on that, and I don't even like Pogues! But hey, if somebody isn't prepared to accept what is out there from the recognised experts in our community and will only take an official response from either Seiko direct or, at the very least, a verified colour catalogue showing this exact variant, then that's up to them. Personally, I think that's quite a sad state of affairs to get yourself in, but each to his own Oh, and Thomas, don't you start getting creative with photoshop and doctor a catalogue scan
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Post by HiBeat on Jul 22, 2017 7:06:51 GMT -8
I locked this thread.ย ย The tone is going from genuine questions about the reference and its variants and seems to be headed towardsย antagonistic comments about what others have posted.
Maybe just a cooling period off needed.
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Jul 22, 2017 18:18:45 GMT -8
My dad bought this new in around 1976 from a high street jeweller (Apparently Zamel's?) in Australia. There is no question whatsoever they are a legitimate variation. They were very, very late in 6139 lifecycle. There is really nothing to debate about these. It's been done a zillion times. Thanks HiBeat for locking the thread. There is no such thing as a grey ring. This is simply a faded ring. Anyone telling you otherwise is full of bullshit (or Kuhscheisse / Stier Scheisse to you Germans) To make it even spicier, they sold the blue dial version, which by now the paint mix was more of a dark teal, with a black ring at the same time. The paint colour varied quite a lot of the run of the watch. Yellow dials range from lemon yellow to a mid orange. Blue dials go from a light midnight blue to a dark teal. We've talked about this a thousand times. The reason we call them the "Aussie" is most of them seem to come out of Australian auctions. It's been long suspected they were only sold in AU or the SEAsia area. SEIKO will have NFI what you are talking about sending them an email like that. They don't keep good records on every slight variation or what was sold where. They sold millions of these things every year and did not keep huge databases like OMEGA and ROLEX as to what the variations were. They generally have no records even of hand colours or dial colours. The poor CS person won't know about anything older than about 10 years. To make it even murkier, I've seen hundreds of these movements and some have different finishes on parts inside. Conspiracy? Changed at service? Made in different factories? Who knows and who really cares. It justifies a shower thought at best. On another note - silver dial was only ever sold with a black ring. They did come on a notch case. As for the notched cases, made in 1969 and 1970. They are not some sort of secret SEIKO sauce. They would have been made to make the operation of the crown easier from the top. Quite likely stopped as it's an extra manufacturing step. You can save a few yen by not making an extra cut. Here's the proof - 6139-6002 yellow/black (in 1978 on STELUX bracelet, my Dad's wedding photo) - 6139 Blue dial with black ring (1976) 6139 Silver with slightly faded black ring
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Post by Adrian-VTA on Jul 22, 2017 20:17:42 GMT -8
FYI for anyone reading this - That guide is horribly out of date and includes a bunch of incorrect info. It shouldn't be used an an authority for anything. Hasn't been updated for maybe 10 years? 10 years ago they thought the 62MAS was fake. No joke.
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